To my way of thinking, the Conservatives are arguing against a straw man: relatively few progressives argue for redistribution of wealth anymore, according to which "from the rich, to the poor."
That argument is supplanted by the argument for supporting social programs: Each individual ought to pay his fair share to support social programs, as an involuntary contribution to a non-profit organization, viz., the government, so as the financial obligations of the working poor and the impoverished, regardless of fault, are managed. That is, a civilized society recognizes the need for a safety net, so that all might live within its realm of care. (Hume's concept of empathy.)
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